2015-06-08

Dialog Wawancara Antara Masashi Kishimoto Dan Eiichiro Oda


Wawancara Antara Masashi  Kishimoto Dan Eiichiro Oda

- Kapan kalian berdua pertama kali bertemu?

Kishimoto: "Kapan ya... mungkin di pesta tahun baru JUMP saat aku masih jadi pemula (di industri manga)."
Oda: "Memangnya saat itu ya?"
Kishimoto: "Mungkin *tertawa*. Kesan pertamaku saat itu, dia (Oda) sudah bagaikan 'guru besar'."
Oda: "Apa yang kau bicarakan?" *tersenyum kaku*
Kishimoto: "Benar kok, habisnya Oda-san sudah 2 tahun lebih dulu memulai serialisasi daripada aku, tiba-tiba saja aku merasa bertemu dengan orang yang luar biasa... Lalu, awalnya aku ingin memanggil 'sensei', tapi dia bilang kepadaku 'Jangan panggil Oda-sensei!'."
Oda: "Tentu saja, kita 'kan seumuran. Kenapa harus panggil 'sensei'..."
Kishimoto: "Bukan artis memang, tapi kupikir seseorang yang lebih dulu terjun ke suatu industri (dalam hal ini, manga) itu adalah orang yang terkenal (dan lebih berpengalaman jadi patut dipanggil 'sensei')." *tertawa*
Oda: "Aku juga sudah terus memperhatikan Kishimoto-san semenjak dia masih jadi pemula. Gambar buatannya bagus, entah mengapa aku merasa 'aliran' dia mirip."
Kishimoto: "Aliran??" *tertawa*
Oda: "Itu lho, kenapa ada dougi Kame Sen Ryu ya...begitu pikirku *tertawa* Karenanya dari awal aku sudah bersiap-siap untuk bertanding (dengan Kishimoto)."
(Notes: Dougi = seragam latihan bela diri. Kame Sen Ryu = aliran bela diri di DRAGON BALL)
Kishimoto: "Sudah siap mau bertanding saja." *tertawa*
Oda: "Karena kita sama-sama berada dalam industri manga, hal seperti menang-kalah sudah sewajarnya ada. Namun setelah aku bertemu (dengan Kishimoto), dia terlihat seperti orang baik. Aku langsung tidak peduli akan menang-kalah. Aku tak bisa bertanding dengan orang ini, begitu pikirku."
Kishimoto: "Sama kalau begitu. Yah, karena aku benar-benar mengerti kesusahan yang selama ini dirasakan (Oda)."
Oda: "Wah, aku senang lho. Apa yang dikatakan orang lain padamu dalam masa sulit adalah hal yang terpenting. Karenanya saat Kishimoto-san yang berada di posisi yang sama (di industri manga) mengatakan "mengerti", aku benar-benar menganggap kalau kau memang mengerti (kesusahanku)."
Kishimoto: "Aku benar-benar mengerti kok *tertawa*. Hanya saja kupikir kalau dalam kasus (kesusahan) punyaku levelnya masih ringan. Oda-san selalu berusaha untuk menuju puncak, segala kesusahan yang dilewatinya (untuk mencapai itu) sudah pasti levelnya tidak biasa. Kalau aku jadi dia mungkin bakal tertekan dan stress tidak karuan."
Oda: "Aku sungguh senang bisa berkompetisi dengan NARUTO. Hal yang paling membuatku amat berterima kasih adalah dia tidak semudah itu untuk dikalahkan. Malah sesungguhnya tidak bisa dikalahkan dalam serial mingguan (JUMP), apalagi dunia lebih mengenal NARUTO. Bisa merasakan frustasi seperti ini sungguh membuatku berterima kasih. Tidak ada satu keberadaan pun yang bisa membuatku begini selain dia (NARUTO)."
Kishimoto: "Ketika aku telah menempatkan targetku pada ONE PIECE, aku langsung berpikir ingin bisa menang (dari ONE PIECE). Tidak salah lagi, itulah yang aku sadari saat itu."


(K=Kishimoto, O=Oda) versi inggris

Q: When did you two first meet?

K: When... I think it's when I was still a newbie mangaka. In the Jump new year event.
O: Is that so?
K: Maybe. (laugh) At the time, my impression on him was like he's a great and famous sensei.
O: What're you saying... (wry smile) (Oda was saying 'you're making fun of me' friendly.)
K: Nah... Because Oda-san started the serial run of his manga two years earlier than me. I really thought a super sugoi man had appeared. Later, I addressed him as Oda-sensei, but he said (like begging) that I must not use such a honorific.
O: I took that for granted cos we're at the same age. Why would I listen to your sensei when you're talking to me...
K: Though we're not performers, I think people who stepped into an industry earlier are admirable. (laugh)
O: I'm always aware of Kishimoto's presense when he was a newbie. He can draw very well. To some extent, I felt we may have the same style.
K: What style... (embarrassing smile)
O: It's like the feeling of why you also have the gi of Kamesenryu (Master Roshi from DB). (laugh) From the beginning I've prepared with offensive state. (Oda wanted to win against Kishimoto.)
K: I see, you had that determination back then. (laugh)
O: Because we're both at the stance of manga, eventually there'll be a winner and a loser. However, after I've met with him personally, I found he's really a nice and kind man. It suddenly made me think the result didnt matter. I couldnt compete with a man like him. That's what I thought.
K: I think that's because we both understand each other's hard work.
O: Very pleasing to hear you say that. When you're working hard, it's important to know who said what about you and your work. I sense you, who has the same standpoint as me, really understand how I truly feel, good to know.
K: Yes I do. (laugh) But I think I'm the one who has less pressure. Oda-san, you're always at your peak. Your hard work and that pain must be abnormal (that normal people cannot bear). If I were you, I guess I would have gastrointestinal perforation due to huge pressure.
O: It's wonderful having Naruto as an opponent. The luckiest thing was you didnt let me get complete victory. Actually, I didnt have complete victory in weekly serialization, besides and most importantly, Naruto is more popular than OP in foreign countries. Though a part of me was not reconciled to that turth, at the same time, I'm grateful. Cos the existence of such a piece of work, is one and only in the world.
K: Same goes for me. Instead of saying OP is my target, I'd rather say I always want to beat it. Seriously, I always think that.

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